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usethepawn 21 ( +1 | -1 )
Things that annoy me. Is people telling me to play faster or hurry up and time out.
i believe im entitled to use the full amount of time that im given on a game am i not?
Maybe if YOU dont like the pace i play at you should resign!
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tim_b 37 ( +1 | -1 )
Indeed You're entitled to use your full quota of time. Your opponent, in starting or joining a game with certain time controls, agreed to be bound by them.

Also, the behaviour you describe is against the rules:

"Rules of Conduct:

1. You may not harass, badger, threaten or rush other players." *

* Source: Rules and Policies / Rules of Conduct / Community Standards.
chessnovice 67 ( +1 | -1 )
... Chess is divided into many different speeds, and the people who play at different speeds tend to have different attitudes. It just so happens that fast players tend to have louder attitudes. :P

In my time away from Gameknot, I was playing chess on the Nintendo DS (consequently, my skill has fallen dramatically). For some reason, they included a prompt that says "I'm waiting!" I always found the overuse of that prompt a little bit rude.

But it's all kind of a zen thing. If you can phase out the annoyances and concentrate on your game to the point where your victory makes the impatient opponent cry, you become a better person because of it. :D
usethepawn 24 ( +1 | -1 )
.. I agree with you tim_b.
And dont appreciate being harrassed when ive done nothing wrong therefore have reported that certain player.
tugger 52 ( +1 | -1 )
i play fast, but i couldn't give a hoot if my opponent plays slow. i think what annoys people is when a player plays faster during the opening and middle game, only to slow right down when he finally falls behind, even to the point of one move per week during a hopeless endgame. but if i agree to a 7-day game, i must allow this time to my opponent if he wants it. usually if an opponent slows down from once a day to once a week, i know i've won.
jsemmens 19 ( +1 | -1 )
By the same token, however, one could say that, since your opponent is losing, he/she needs to think harder and longer to try to find some inspiration to turn the game around.
spurtus 39 ( +1 | -1 )
Always, usethepawn, I totally agree with you. I like to 'use' rather than 'take' my time. I think there is nothing worse than a good game of chess rushed, especially when there are immense tactical sorties afoot...

however I do think when a game is increasingly lost a player should probably resign or play fast.

Spurtus
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ccmcacollister 7 ( +1 | -1 )
personally ... I feel its best to slow down before you make the mistake :)
ccmcacollister 72 ( +1 | -1 )
What annoys Me ... Some players seem to have an assumption that playing faster seems more intelligent. Personally, I cant agree. While it can indicate someone knows their material well, usually I find it indicative of superficiality or an unwillingness to look for new things to venture.
Well of course a player is entitled to if that is how they do like to play. But I do hate to see them harp on it also. Or perhaps they just have more time everyday to devote to it.
And to be honest, I haven't seen that happening from my own opponents here at GK. Of course they are all very fine fellows~!. And surely everyone knows ...I am slow. I want to show up in MCO next to that new TN under footnote "Q". :))
usethepawn 40 ( +1 | -1 )
I agree That it is a little annoying when a player drags out a hopelessly lost game. But if thats the way my opponent would choose to play then so be it. Im still going to win whether it be in a week, month or year.
I am however not dragging out a lost game, rather the opposite, im up in material in that specific game.
Im still waiting on the reply from management about my complaint.
cheers
Nicko
tugger 34 ( +1 | -1 )
<<<Some players seem to have an assumption that playing faster seems more intelligent.>>>

on the contrary, i believe playing faster is worse, i make most of my mistakes because i have not analysed the position well enough. but i'm lazy and impatient. i see a move and make it. if i slowed down, i would be much better.
mfeeney93 56 ( +1 | -1 )
Amen, tugger! If I reduce my games and take my time, my game improves significantly.

But, alas, I enjoy the quick mental challenge of taking about 30 seconds to 5 minutes to make a move... Mostly about 30 to 90 seconds.

I know I'll lose more but I'm fine with that. I'm also completely fine with people taking as much time as the game control allows for whatever reason suits them (like, for example, removing a wedgie... or walking the dog... or a trip to Timbuktoo). If they take too long, they'll timeout (or an EP will kick in).
doctor_knight 104 ( +1 | -1 )
an oppenent badgering me to move faster would encourage me to use even more time to move. This works positively in two ways: first I get an even better look at the position and second it starts to take the opponent's mind off the board and causes him to start making more impatient moves increasing the chances of his blundering. This is actually a strategical theme in tennis that I have used to almost save a set from slipping away (I was too many games behind though, but I did win like 3 or 4 games in a row). I think the best thing to do if your opponent is taking longer than you would like is to use the extra time to analyze the position and prepare for your opponent's next move. You really just have to keep your mind on the board. Patience is a virtue. And rules or not, it is really a psychological war, and the person who keeps his focus on the board will usually win.

mfeeney93, why not just play OTB for that same mental challenge and use more time in correspondence to further your understanding of chess?
ganstaman 55 ( +1 | -1 )
doctor_knight and tennis I've tried taking more time to hit the ball back in tennis, but then the ball is usually behind me when I swing.

I know it's not completely true, and after seeing contrary evidence I do change my mind about people, but when I see here that someone moves fast (average time per move is in minutes, or a mini tournament that begs to be done in a day), I assume that they aren't so good. Well, I don't think that they are bad, necessarily, but I do think that their performance here will be bad.
chessnovice 57 ( +1 | -1 )
Something that annoys me I figured I should probably contribute something that annoys me with chess. Bughouse sort of annoys me because of a traumatizing moment where I was going over a game and someone announced an impromptu Bughouse tournament. Little kids appeared out of nowhere and it became so crowded that there was barely room to leave. Maybe it's just because I don't play, but I find that variant kind of annoying. Kind of like how Magic: The Gathering used to annoy me, come to think of it...

I do hear it gets pretty crazy, though.
doctor_knight 145 ( +1 | -1 )
about the tennis, I didn't mean taking more time to hit the ball; sorry for the confusion. I meant taking the total amount of time allowed between points before you serve, not getting into serve return position until the server starts his motion, etc. Basically just making your opponent wait extra time which helps to break up his momentum and takes his mind off of what matters. For example you can walk up to service position, bounce the ball, pause, walk back to some spot behind the baseline, take a deep breath, walk back to the baseline, pause, do your service routine more than once taking time to pause and then finally serving it. When his opponent was gaining momentum, Ivan Lendl would do stuff like stopping his service routine to towel off and wipe his grip. Even while returning serve, he would do stuff like towel off and stuff and then ask the server to hurry up and serve! Now that's a little bit mean, but it really works.

Anyway, enough about tennis, psychological warfare works; we just shouldn't go to the point of being offensive.

Yeah, other forms of chess are a little weird. Some of my friends got me to play 4-way chess. It was fun, but it wound up being more about diplomacy than chess. I've never played bughouse chess before though.
ganstaman 18 ( +1 | -1 )
I wasn't that serious about the tennis. Even when I don't take my time to swing the ball still ends up behind me (that's some crazy backspin I put on it...).
steverand67 29 ( +1 | -1 )
bughouse Lots of fun when one's not surrounded by hordes of small children. For me, the fun comes from the fast pace and sacrificing on f2/f7 and then going on a king hunt. I imagine chess purists would have me burnt alive for these heretical comments, but for a pleasant diversion bughouse "chess" isn't bad at all.
kansaspatzer 8 ( +1 | -1 )
Just got done playing bughouse tonight at my college's chess club :)
dysfl 45 ( +1 | -1 )
Let it pass, usethepawn I seem to play fast in GK, losing many games in blunders.

However, I had no problem with slow players, except they seem to intentionally dragging the specific game in the hope of me getting a time-out. And it could be just my imagination. I usually set a couple of automated moves, and just leave it as is till it becomes my turn again.

This is a corr-chess site. When I need a quick chess-fix, I go to FICS. It works for me.

dr_dread 146 ( +1 | -1 )
A few extra notes... At my rating level I have won many games or drawn or stalemated being "down" in material,so some players may think i'm dragging a game on because they are up a knight or more,but that isn't necessarily so.I cannot tell you how many times I have stalemated a game when my opponent was so called "winning" being up 2 queens to my 0 queens and I managed to box my King in,so i could not move but not be mated.Or other times when I was down 3 or 4 point values and squeaked out a win or a draw.Other times i have sacrificed material that lesser rated opponents would now say that they had a "won" game,especially in the blitz room here on GK...only to be disappointed when i moved in for mate,being down lots of pieces!See,opinions vary as to a "won" game and I cannot stress enough how wrong a player is to assume they have a "won" game,even being up a queen!
Now as to this blitz site,I wish all the players would get together and start clamping down on many of the players that intimidate,use foul language,and speak alot of crap while the other opponent is trying to play a 10 minute game.I want everyone to take the board #,time and what they wrote and complain to the GK administrators.I've "cleaned up" the blitz site with a few players by having their profiles permanently suspended or their writing privileges suspended.It happens alot in this blitz site and i'm getting tired of it...........
kansaspatzer 17 ( +1 | -1 )
When players send private messages demanding you speed up, the best thing to do is to respond with a link to the site rules, highlighting the very first one.